{"id":61271,"date":"2019-11-04T18:00:30","date_gmt":"2019-11-04T23:00:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/?post_type=cu_story&#038;p=61271"},"modified":"2025-08-19T09:37:26","modified_gmt":"2025-08-19T13:37:26","slug":"thunberg-obama-interfere-canadian-election","status":"publish","type":"cu_story","link":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/story\/thunberg-obama-interfere-canadian-election\/","title":{"rendered":"Thunberg and Obama: Did they interfere in the Canadian election?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<section class=\"w-screen px-6 cu-section cu-section--white ml-offset-center md:px-8 lg:px-14\">\n    <div class=\"space-y-6 cu-max-w-child-max  md:space-y-10 cu-prose-first-last\">\n\n        \n                    \n                    \n            \n    <div class=\"cu-wideimage relative flex items-center justify-center mx-auto px-8 overflow-hidden md:px-16 rounded-xl not-prose  my-6 md:my-12 first:mt-0 bg-opacity-50 bg-cover bg-cu-black-50 pt-24 pb-32 md:pt-28 md:pb-44 lg:pt-36 lg:pb-60 xl:pt-48 xl:pb-72\" style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/conversation-thunberg-obama-interfere-canadian-election-1200w-1.jpg); background-position: 50% 50%;\">\n\n                    <div class=\"absolute top-0 w-full h-screen\" style=\"background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.600);\"><\/div>\n        \n        <div class=\"relative z-[2] max-w-4xl w-full flex flex-col items-center gap-2 cu-wideimage-image cu-zero-first-last\">\n            <header class=\"mx-auto mb-6 text-center text-white cu-pageheader cu-component-updated cu-pageheader--center md:mb-12\">\n\n                                    <h1 class=\"cu-prose-first-last font-semibold mb-2 text-3xl md:text-4xl lg:text-5xl lg:leading-[3.5rem] cu-pageheader--center text-center mx-auto after:left-px\">\n                        Thunberg and Obama: Did they interfere in the Canadian election?\n                    <\/h1>\n                \n                            <\/header>\n        <\/div>\n\n                    <svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"absolute bottom-0 w-full z-[1]\" fill=\"none\" viewbox=\"0 0 1280 312\">\n                <path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M26.412 315.608c-.602-.268-6.655-2.412-13.524-4.769a1943.84 1943.84 0 0 1-14.682-5.144l-2.276-.858v-5.358c0-4.876.086-5.358.773-5.09 1.674.643 21.38 5.84 34.646 9.109 14.682 3.59 28.935 6.858 45.936 10.449l9.874 2.089H57.322c-16.4 0-30.31-.16-30.91-.428ZM460.019 315.233c42.974-10.074 75.602-19.88 132.443-39.867 76.16-26.791 152.063-57.709 222.385-90.663 16.7-7.823 21.336-10.074 44.262-21.273 85.004-41.688 134.719-64.193 195.291-88.413 66.55-26.577 145.2-53.584 194.27-66.765C1258.5 5.626 1281.34 0 1282.24 0c.17 0 .34 27.596.34 61.3v61.299l-2.23.375c-84.7 13.718-165.93 35.955-310.736 84.931-46.494 15.753-65.427 22.076-96.166 32.15-9.102 3-24.814 8.198-34.989 11.574-107.543 35.954-153.008 50.422-196.626 62.639l-6.74 1.876-89.126-.054c-78.135-.054-88.782-.161-85.948-.857ZM729.628 312.875c33.229-10.985 69.248-23.523 127.506-44.207 118.705-42.223 164.596-57.709 217.446-73.302 2.62-.75 8.29-2.465 12.67-3.751 56.19-16.772 126.94-33.597 184.17-43.671 5.07-.91 9.66-1.768 10.22-1.875l.94-.161v170.236l-281.28-.054H719.968l9.66-3.215ZM246.864 313.411c-65.041-2.251-143.047-12.11-208.432-26.256-18.375-3.965-41.73-9.538-42.202-10.074-.171-.214-.257-21.38-.214-47.046l.129-46.618 6.654 3.697c57.313 32.043 118.491 56.531 197.699 79.143 40.313 11.521 83.459 18.058 138.669 21.059 15.584.857 65.685.857 81.14 0 33.744-1.876 61.306-4.93 88.396-9.806 6.396-1.126 11.634-1.983 11.722-1.929.255.375-20.48 7.769-30.999 11.038-28.592 8.948-59.288 15.646-91.873 20.147-26.36 3.59-50.015 5.627-78.35 6.698-15.584.59-55.209.59-72.339-.053Z\"><\/path>\n                <path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M-3.066 295.067 32.06 304.1v9.033H-3.066v-18.066Z\"><\/path>\n            <\/svg>\n            <\/div>\n\n    \n\n    <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n<p>Ahead of the 2019 Canadian federal election, many Canadians were <a href=\"https:\/\/globalnews.ca\/news\/5398763\/canada-election-meddling\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">concerned about the threat<\/a> of foreign interference. Would foreign powers attempt to support one party over another? What sort of sensitive political information would be hacked or stolen and disseminated to the public at large? Would Canadians fall victim to aggressive social media campaigns of influence and disinformation?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As it happened, Canada remained relatively free from foreign interference. After the election, Canada\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rcinet.ca\/en\/2019\/10\/23\/no-foreign-interference-detected-in-canadas-federal-election-officials-say\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Communications Security Establishment concluded<\/a> it \u201cdid not observe any activities that met the threshold for public announcement or affected Canada\u2019s ability to have a free and fair election.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some of the credit for this fortunate state of affairs can go to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.canada.ca\/en\/democratic-institutions\/news\/2019\/01\/combatting-foreign-interference.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">robust deterrent and defensive strategies<\/a> pursued by the government before the election. We can also, for once, be grateful that Canada is just not important enough to be a major target of foreign powers. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But don\u2019t celebrate too soon. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"attempts-were-made\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Attempts were made<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We may not have been attacked on a large scale, but foreign powers certainly tried to influence our votes. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.japantimes.co.jp\/news\/2019\/07\/09\/world\/u-k-bars-russias-rt-sputnik-media-freedom-conference-disinformation\/#.XcBH9JJKgWo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">RT and Sputnik News<\/a> \u2014 two Russian-funded propaganda organizations masquerading as legitimate news sources   \u2014  broadcast polarizing narratives throughout the election. There were concerns that foreign powers would <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/canada\/article-top-officials-warned-china-india-could-use-communities-in-canada-to\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">also try<\/a> to sway votes by mobilizing diaspora communities in Canada. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The most newsworthy forms of interference came from our allies and from international civil society. Former U.S. president Barack Obama openly endorsed Justin Trudeau on Oct. 16, with less than a week to go before the election. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div data-react-class=\"Tweet\" data-react-props=\"{&quot;tweetId&quot;:&quot;1184528998669389824&quot;}\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Greta Thunberg, the Swedish activist, made a point to visit Canada in the midst of her global climate change campaign. A staunch opponent of the Trans Mountain pipeline   \u2014 the construction of which is a stated policy of both the Liberal and Conservative parties   \u2014 she encouraged Canadians to vote for climate action. While not explicitly endorsing any party, the implication was clear: vote NDP or Green.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Everybody tried to benefit from these interventions. Naturally, the Liberals revelled in the support provided by Obama. Every party except the Conservatives sought to profit from Thunberg\u2019s popularity. For their part, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=OUfgG5velcg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rebel Media group stoked<\/a> the right-wing outrage that emerged in response Thunberg\u2019s visit by making false allegations about the sources of her funding. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"persuading-not-manipulating\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Persuading, not manipulating<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Compared to Russia, of course, Obama and Thunberg are good-faith actors. They are out to persuade, not manipulate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image align-center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/300121\/original\/file-20191104-88372-16k1zf7.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\n              <span class=\"caption\">Obama walks with Trudeau after addressing the House of Commons in Ottawa in June 2016. (THE CANADIAN PRESS\/Justin Tang)<\/span><br>\n            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Nevertheless, they have political agendas that, by definition, go beyond the Canadian national interest. It\u2019s therefore worthwhile to reflect on whether their interventions were truly legitimate. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To what extent should Canadians be tolerant of foreign attempts to influence how we vote? What are the legal and moral boundaries around interference?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Legally speaking, Obama and Thunberg are in the clear. Foreigners can endorse candidates so long as they do not exercise what the 2000 <a href=\"https:\/\/laws-lois.justice.gc.ca\/eng\/acts\/e-2.01\/FullText.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Canada Election Act<\/a> calls \u201cundue influence\u201d    \u2014 knowingly incurring expenses, such as donating money, in direct support of a candidate or political party, or by otherwise violating Canadian law in the process of providing support.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Malicious foreign organizations, like the propaganda-pushing RT and Sputnik News, are also in the clear, carefully operating just below the threshold of legality. Financing the mobilization of diaspora communities, on the other hand, is illegal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So much for the law, but what about moral boundaries? Is it appropriate for Canadian politicians to seek foreign support? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"guarding-our-sovereignty\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Guarding our sovereignty<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Canadians should consider a few things. On the one hand, we should place a premium on our sovereignty, which sustains a sense of national independence. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our national dignity is affronted when Canadians are forced to ask questions about the nature of foreign endorsements. What American interests, for example, did Obama see as being served by Trudeau\u2019s election? What did the Liberal Party offer in return? Perhaps nothing, but, as is often the case, the appearance of a conflict of interest can be just as humiliating as a real one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The votes of the Canadian electorate alone ought to be enough to establish a governing mandate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But transnational movements like Thunberg\u2019s are a different story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image align-center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/300130\/original\/file-20191104-88399-8209jo.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\n              <span class=\"caption\">Thunberg speaks during a climate rally in Vancouver in October 2019. (THE CANADIAN PRESS\/Melissa Renwick)<\/span><br>\n            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>As the protests in Montr\u00e9al and elsewhere showed, these movements are important to many Canadians. No matter how skeptical we might be of Thunberg\u2019s political concerns, they\u2019re shared across Canada, even if she is herself a foreigner.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Reconciling these two views requires us to recognize that Canadian politicians should be gracious as they are decisive in rejecting foreign endorsements from allies. Foreign propaganda outlets should be shunned altogether. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the other hand, it is fair game for politicians to seek to benefit from transnational mandates which, by definition, are relevant to Canadians. As for Thunberg, her presence in Canada raises questions about ideas, but there\u2019s no conflict of interest. And when politicians choose to stump on ideas, Canadians will find themselves debating their merit \u2014 and what could be more democratic than that?  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This article is republished from <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/carleton-university-900\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Conversation<\/a> under a Creative Commons license. Carleton University is a member of this unique digital journalism platform that launched in June 2017 to boost visibility of Canada\u2019s academic faculty and researchers. Interested in writing a piece? Please contact <a href=\"mailto:steven.reid3@carleton.ca\">Steven Reid<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/become-an-author\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sign up to become an author<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>All photos provided by The Conversation from various sources.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8212;<br>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/\">Carleton Newsroom<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/counter.theconversation.com\/content\/126335\/count.gif?distributor=republish-lightbox-basic\" alt=\"The Conversation\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ahead of the 2019 Canadian federal election, many Canadians were concerned about the threat of foreign interference. Would foreign powers attempt to support one party over another? What sort of sensitive political information would be hacked or stolen and disseminated to the public at large? 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