{"id":63939,"date":"2020-02-27T08:47:47","date_gmt":"2020-02-27T13:47:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/?post_type=cu_story&#038;p=63939"},"modified":"2025-08-19T09:37:24","modified_gmt":"2025-08-19T13:37:24","slug":"carbon-pricing-overrated","status":"publish","type":"cu_story","link":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/story\/carbon-pricing-overrated\/","title":{"rendered":"Carbon pricing may be overrated, if history is any indication"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<section class=\"w-screen px-6 cu-section cu-section--white ml-offset-center md:px-8 lg:px-14\">\n    <div class=\"space-y-6 cu-max-w-child-max  md:space-y-10 cu-prose-first-last\">\n\n        \n                    \n                    \n            \n    <div class=\"cu-wideimage relative flex items-center justify-center mx-auto px-8 overflow-hidden md:px-16 rounded-xl not-prose  my-6 md:my-12 first:mt-0 bg-opacity-50 bg-cover bg-cu-black-50 pt-24 pb-32 md:pt-28 md:pb-44 lg:pt-36 lg:pb-60 xl:pt-48 xl:pb-72\" style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/conversation-carbon-pricing-1200w-1.jpg); background-position: 50% 50%;\">\n\n                    <div class=\"absolute top-0 w-full h-screen\" style=\"background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.600);\"><\/div>\n        \n        <div class=\"relative z-[2] max-w-4xl w-full flex flex-col items-center gap-2 cu-wideimage-image cu-zero-first-last\">\n            <header class=\"mx-auto mb-6 text-center text-white cu-pageheader cu-component-updated cu-pageheader--center md:mb-12\">\n\n                                    <h1 class=\"cu-prose-first-last font-semibold mb-2 text-3xl md:text-4xl lg:text-5xl lg:leading-[3.5rem] cu-pageheader--center text-center mx-auto after:left-px\">\n                        Carbon pricing may be overrated, if history is any indication\n                    <\/h1>\n                \n                            <\/header>\n        <\/div>\n\n                    <svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"absolute bottom-0 w-full z-[1]\" fill=\"none\" viewbox=\"0 0 1280 312\">\n                <path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M26.412 315.608c-.602-.268-6.655-2.412-13.524-4.769a1943.84 1943.84 0 0 1-14.682-5.144l-2.276-.858v-5.358c0-4.876.086-5.358.773-5.09 1.674.643 21.38 5.84 34.646 9.109 14.682 3.59 28.935 6.858 45.936 10.449l9.874 2.089H57.322c-16.4 0-30.31-.16-30.91-.428ZM460.019 315.233c42.974-10.074 75.602-19.88 132.443-39.867 76.16-26.791 152.063-57.709 222.385-90.663 16.7-7.823 21.336-10.074 44.262-21.273 85.004-41.688 134.719-64.193 195.291-88.413 66.55-26.577 145.2-53.584 194.27-66.765C1258.5 5.626 1281.34 0 1282.24 0c.17 0 .34 27.596.34 61.3v61.299l-2.23.375c-84.7 13.718-165.93 35.955-310.736 84.931-46.494 15.753-65.427 22.076-96.166 32.15-9.102 3-24.814 8.198-34.989 11.574-107.543 35.954-153.008 50.422-196.626 62.639l-6.74 1.876-89.126-.054c-78.135-.054-88.782-.161-85.948-.857ZM729.628 312.875c33.229-10.985 69.248-23.523 127.506-44.207 118.705-42.223 164.596-57.709 217.446-73.302 2.62-.75 8.29-2.465 12.67-3.751 56.19-16.772 126.94-33.597 184.17-43.671 5.07-.91 9.66-1.768 10.22-1.875l.94-.161v170.236l-281.28-.054H719.968l9.66-3.215ZM246.864 313.411c-65.041-2.251-143.047-12.11-208.432-26.256-18.375-3.965-41.73-9.538-42.202-10.074-.171-.214-.257-21.38-.214-47.046l.129-46.618 6.654 3.697c57.313 32.043 118.491 56.531 197.699 79.143 40.313 11.521 83.459 18.058 138.669 21.059 15.584.857 65.685.857 81.14 0 33.744-1.876 61.306-4.93 88.396-9.806 6.396-1.126 11.634-1.983 11.722-1.929.255.375-20.48 7.769-30.999 11.038-28.592 8.948-59.288 15.646-91.873 20.147-26.36 3.59-50.015 5.627-78.35 6.698-15.584.59-55.209.59-72.339-.053Z\"><\/path>\n                <path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M-3.066 295.067 32.06 304.1v9.033H-3.066v-18.066Z\"><\/path>\n            <\/svg>\n            <\/div>\n\n    \n\n    <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n<p>A common demand in discussions about climate change is to respect the science. This is  appropriate. We should all be paying close attention to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bristol.ac.uk\/cabot\/events\/2012\/194.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">urgent and terrifying conclusions<\/a> being published by climate scientists. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But scientists are not the only experts demanding that we listen to them on this issue. Many economists claim scientific authority for their insistence that carbon pricing, whether delivered through carbon taxes or cap-and-trade systems, is the best way to reduce carbon emissions. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If you price carbon appropriately, they say, it will create market incentives which will bring about radical carbon emissions reductions in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lse.ac.uk\/GranthamInstitute\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/PB_case-carbon-pricing_Bowen.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cheapest possible way<\/a>. Many policy-makers have already listened to this advice. Carbon-pricing systems exist in Canada, the European Union, Norway, New Zealand and Japan. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The case for carbon pricing, however, is not as ironclad as the case for climate action. The economic theory that underlies carbon pricing schemes is based on <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/danger-strikes-when-foolish-humans-are-left-in-charge-of-their-financial-futures-45262\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">questionable theoretical assumptions<\/a>. It assumes, for example, that people can be modelled as both rational and self-interested, which might be a big oversimplification. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Carbon pricing proponents often ignore that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nrdc.org\/experts\/david-b-goldstein\/carbon-fees-are-not-best-solution-climate-pollution\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">many people can\u2019t<\/a> reduce their carbon emissions, even if they receive financial incentives. Economists who favour carbon pricing also have yet to come up with an answer to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.citylab.com\/transportation\/2018\/11\/french-protests-gilets-jaunes-emmanuel-macron-gas-diesel-tax\/576196\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">major political backlashes<\/a> that have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/2014\/jul\/17\/australia-kills-off-carbon-tax\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">accompanied the imposition of carbon taxes<\/a> in many of the jurisdictions <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macleans.ca\/politics\/ottawa\/a-carbon-tax-just-try-them\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">where they have been introduced<\/a>, including France, Australia and Canada.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A less frequently discussed reason to question the insistence on carbon pricing as a central climate policy comes from history. Throughout the 20th century, many governments successfully enacted <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/j.erss.2015.12.020\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">radical technological transitions<\/a>. Today, faced with an urgent need to change our energy system, it would be wise to look at how they accomplished this. My research on how governments in the past have deliberately accelerated large-scale technological change does just that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"modernizing-under-siege\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Modernizing under siege<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In 1937, British policy-makers looked on nervously while the Wehrmacht marched into Austria. War with Germany posed a serious food supply problem for Britain. British agriculture had been <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1093\/acprof:oso\/9780198208716.001.0001\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">collapsing for decades<\/a> under competition from cheap foreign foods, and Germany was known to use submarines to disrupt enemy shipping. Policy-makers began preparing for a siege economy. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image align-center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/316501\/original\/file-20200220-92518-307u89.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\n              <span class=\"caption\">The Women\u2019s Land Army ploughed fields in Britain on tractors during the Second World War. (<a class=\"source\" href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:The_Women%27s_Land_Army_in_Britain_during_the_Second_World_War_HU36275.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Imperial War Museum<\/a>)<\/span><br>\n            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>To do this, the British government <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/book\/show\/3714461-english-agriculture\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">intervened directly in the agricultural system<\/a>. It purchased thousands of tractors, established a subsidized fixed price for grain to stabilize markets, created local War Agricultural Executive Committees to maximize food production and, in many cases, had police force farmers to plough new land. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These policies not only allowed Britain to avoid famine during the Second World War, they also jump-started a massive structural transformation that persisted into the 1950s and 1960s as British farmers <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/40275421\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">embraced tractors, fertilizers, pesticides and monocultures<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image align-center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/315772\/original\/file-20200217-11017-1hu0nw6.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\n              <span class=\"caption\">Changes to British grain yields, 1900-70. <a class=\"source\" href=\"https:\/\/books.google.ca\/books\/about\/British_Historical_Statistics.html?id=Oyg9AAAAIAAJ&amp;redir_esc=y\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">(Data from &#8216;British Historical Statistics&#8217;)<\/a><\/span><br>\n            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"making-the-most-of-a-bonanza\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Making the most of a bonanza<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image align-left zoomable\"><a href=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/315776\/original\/file-20200217-10976-kkyn0h.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=1000&amp;fit=clip\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/315776\/original\/file-20200217-10976-kkyn0h.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=237&amp;fit=clip\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\n              <span class=\"caption\">Heat consumption in The Netherlands, 1945-98. <a class=\"source\" href=\"https:\/\/opendata.cbs.nl\/statline\/#\/CBS\/en\/dataset\/83140eng\/table?ts=1582135182081\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">(Data from Statistics Netherlands)<\/a><\/span><br>\n            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image align-left zoomable\"><a href=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/315777\/original\/file-20200217-11005-12945uy.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=1000&amp;fit=clip\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/315777\/original\/file-20200217-11005-12945uy.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=237&amp;fit=clip\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\n              <span class=\"caption\">Energy production in The Netherlands, 1945-73. <a class=\"source\" href=\"https:\/\/opendata.cbs.nl\/statline\/#\/CBS\/en\/dataset\/83140eng\/table?ts=1582135182081\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">(Data from Statistics Netherlands)<\/a><\/span><br>\n            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In 1959, the Dutch oil industry discovered the Slochteren natural gas field near Groningen, in the Netherlands. At the time, its size was estimated at 60 billion cubic metres of gas: the largest gas field found on Earth up to that point. It proved to be much larger: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nam.nl\/english-information.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">2,800 billion cubic metres<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It was not entirely clear what the Netherlands, a predominantly coal-powered country, would do with so much gas. Deliberations between the fossil fuel industry and the government eventually arrived at a radical answer: the Netherlands <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.4337\/9781845423421.00017\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">would transform its entire economy to run on natural gas<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Once the details of this plan were agreed upon, progress proceeded with astonishing speed. The Dutch government built a nationwide network of gas pipelines in just five years, offered consumer rebates to convert appliances to gas power, ran an advertising campaign promoting natural gas as a clean and modern fuel and <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1080\/09537325.2019.1584286\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">retrained out-of-work coal miners to work in the gas industry<\/a>. By the 1970s, natural gas was the dominant force in the Dutch heat supply.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"lessons-from-an-energy-crunch\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lessons from an energy crunch<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In 1973, Denmark had no domestic oil industry and little diplomatic heft. This meant that the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/2011\/mar\/03\/1970s-oil-price-shock\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1973 oil crisis<\/a> hit Denmark hard. Reduced oil supply created an economic depression and forced policy-makers to implement <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.4324\/9781315739533-3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">extreme energy conservation measures<\/a>, such as turning out streetlights and banning Sunday driving.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image align-left zoomable\"><a href=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/315778\/original\/file-20200217-10985-7zygmq.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=1000&amp;fit=clip\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/315778\/original\/file-20200217-10985-7zygmq.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=237&amp;fit=clip\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\n              <span class=\"caption\">Danish heat supply, 1968-90. <a class=\"source\" href=\"https:\/\/statbank.dk\/statbank5a\/default.asp?w=1368\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">(Data from Statbank Denmark)<\/a><\/span><br>\n            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>For a longer-term solution, Danish policy-makers looked to become less dependent on imported energy. To reduce the country\u2019s reliance on heating oil, they prioritized district heating: An extremely efficient form of space heating which uses insulated pipes full of hot water to heat several buildings, or even an entire neighbourhood, at once, rather than having each building rely on an individual furnace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As with the previous two examples, this change was done through <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1080\/09537325.2019.1584286\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">deliberate intervention<\/a>, which was handled mainly by municipalities. In some places, municipalities banned the installation private furnaces. In others, they offered interest-free loans to energy cooperatives. This coordinated national strategy led to a rapid increase in the share of district heating in the Danish heating system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"lessons-for-today\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lessons for today<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These case studies have important differences, both with each other and with the challenge of climate action in the present day. In each one, however, radical technological change was achieved not by relying on price signals to coordinate change, but by the state intervening and coordinating it directly. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is strong historical evidence against some economists\u2019 insistence on carbon pricing as the primary way to promote low-carbon technologies and practices. As they chart a way to mitigate climate change most effectively, policymakers should supplement economic theory with empirical lessons from history.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This article is republished from <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/carleton-university-900\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Conversation<\/a> under a Creative Commons license. Carleton University is a member of this unique digital journalism platform that launched in June 2017 to boost visibility of Canada\u2019s academic faculty and researchers. Interested in writing a piece? Please contact <a href=\"mailto:steven.reid3@carleton.ca\">Steven Reid<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/become-an-author\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sign up to become an author<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>All photos provided by The Conversation from various sources.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8212;<br>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/\">Carleton Newsroom<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/counter.theconversation.com\/content\/130924\/count.gif?distributor=republish-lightbox-basic\" alt=\"The Conversation\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A common demand in discussions about climate change is to respect the science. This is appropriate. We should all be paying close attention to the urgent and terrifying conclusions being published by climate scientists. But scientists are not the only experts demanding that we listen to them on this issue. 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