{"id":70313,"date":"2020-10-19T17:24:59","date_gmt":"2020-10-19T21:24:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/?post_type=cu_story&#038;p=70313"},"modified":"2025-10-15T10:54:06","modified_gmt":"2025-10-15T14:54:06","slug":"navdeep-bains-conversation","status":"publish","type":"cu_story","link":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/story\/navdeep-bains-conversation\/","title":{"rendered":"Carleton&#8217;s Inclusion Week: A Conversation with Michael Charles and Navdeep Bains"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<section class=\"w-screen px-6 cu-section cu-section--white ml-offset-center md:px-8 lg:px-14\">\n    <div class=\"space-y-6 cu-max-w-child-max  md:space-y-10 cu-prose-first-last\">\n\n        \n                    \n                    \n            \n    <div class=\"cu-wideimage relative flex items-center justify-center mx-auto px-8 overflow-hidden md:px-16 rounded-xl not-prose  my-6 md:my-12 first:mt-0 bg-opacity-50 bg-cover bg-cu-black-50 pt-24 pb-32 md:pt-28 md:pb-44 lg:pt-36 lg:pb-60 xl:pt-48 xl:pb-72\" style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-0.jpg); background-position: 50% 50%;\">\n\n                    <div class=\"absolute top-0 w-full h-screen\" style=\"background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.600);\"><\/div>\n        \n        <div class=\"relative z-[2] max-w-4xl w-full flex flex-col items-center gap-2 cu-wideimage-image cu-zero-first-last\">\n            <header class=\"mx-auto mb-6 text-center text-white cu-pageheader cu-component-updated cu-pageheader--center md:mb-12\">\n\n                                    <h1 class=\"cu-prose-first-last font-semibold mb-2 text-3xl md:text-4xl lg:text-5xl lg:leading-[3.5rem] cu-pageheader--center text-center mx-auto after:left-px\">\n                        Carleton&#039;s Inclusion Week: A Conversation with Michael Charles and Navdeep Bains\n                    <\/h1>\n                \n                            <\/header>\n        <\/div>\n\n                    <svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"absolute bottom-0 w-full z-[1]\" fill=\"none\" viewbox=\"0 0 1280 312\">\n                <path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M26.412 315.608c-.602-.268-6.655-2.412-13.524-4.769a1943.84 1943.84 0 0 1-14.682-5.144l-2.276-.858v-5.358c0-4.876.086-5.358.773-5.09 1.674.643 21.38 5.84 34.646 9.109 14.682 3.59 28.935 6.858 45.936 10.449l9.874 2.089H57.322c-16.4 0-30.31-.16-30.91-.428ZM460.019 315.233c42.974-10.074 75.602-19.88 132.443-39.867 76.16-26.791 152.063-57.709 222.385-90.663 16.7-7.823 21.336-10.074 44.262-21.273 85.004-41.688 134.719-64.193 195.291-88.413 66.55-26.577 145.2-53.584 194.27-66.765C1258.5 5.626 1281.34 0 1282.24 0c.17 0 .34 27.596.34 61.3v61.299l-2.23.375c-84.7 13.718-165.93 35.955-310.736 84.931-46.494 15.753-65.427 22.076-96.166 32.15-9.102 3-24.814 8.198-34.989 11.574-107.543 35.954-153.008 50.422-196.626 62.639l-6.74 1.876-89.126-.054c-78.135-.054-88.782-.161-85.948-.857ZM729.628 312.875c33.229-10.985 69.248-23.523 127.506-44.207 118.705-42.223 164.596-57.709 217.446-73.302 2.62-.75 8.29-2.465 12.67-3.751 56.19-16.772 126.94-33.597 184.17-43.671 5.07-.91 9.66-1.768 10.22-1.875l.94-.161v170.236l-281.28-.054H719.968l9.66-3.215ZM246.864 313.411c-65.041-2.251-143.047-12.11-208.432-26.256-18.375-3.965-41.73-9.538-42.202-10.074-.171-.214-.257-21.38-.214-47.046l.129-46.618 6.654 3.697c57.313 32.043 118.491 56.531 197.699 79.143 40.313 11.521 83.459 18.058 138.669 21.059 15.584.857 65.685.857 81.14 0 33.744-1.876 61.306-4.93 88.396-9.806 6.396-1.126 11.634-1.983 11.722-1.929.255.375-20.48 7.769-30.999 11.038-28.592 8.948-59.288 15.646-91.873 20.147-26.36 3.59-50.015 5.627-78.35 6.698-15.584.59-55.209.59-72.339-.053Z\"><\/path>\n                <path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M-3.066 295.067 32.06 304.1v9.033H-3.066v-18.066Z\"><\/path>\n            <\/svg>\n            <\/div>\n\n    \n\n    <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n<p>To kick off Carleton University\u2019s Second Annual <a href=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/equity\/wp-content\/uploads\/Equity-Inclusion-Week-Program.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Inclusion Week<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/equity\/profile\/michael-f-charles\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Michael Charles<\/a>, Assistant Vice-President and University Advisor at <a href=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/equity\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Equity and Inclusive Communities<\/a> spoke with <a href=\"https:\/\/pm.gc.ca\/en\/cabinet\/honourable-navdeep-bains\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Navdeep Bains<\/a>, Canada\u2019s Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry. Together, they explored topics of equity, diversity and inclusion (EDI) and how educational and government institutions can work together to spark transformational change.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"not-prose cu-quote cu-component-spacing\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cSo much has happened in the last year,\u201d Charles began, noting that Ottawa is in the midst of a second wave of COVID-19, following a summer of global racial reckoning.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>These issues intersect as marginalized and racialized groups have been disproportionately impacted by the pandemic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full wp-image-69168\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"680\" src=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/michael-charles-1200w-1.jpg\" alt=\"Michael F. Charles\" class=\"wp-image-69168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/michael-charles-1200w-1.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/michael-charles-1200w-1-400x227.jpg 400w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/michael-charles-1200w-1-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/michael-charles-1200w-1-768x435.jpg 768w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/michael-charles-1200w-1-700x397.jpg 700w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/michael-charles-1200w-1-200x113.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Assistant Vice-President and University Advisor for EIC Michael F. Charles<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Bains says the government\u2019s understanding of the role of EDI and anti-racism has been influenced by these changing economic and social circumstances.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"not-prose cu-quote cu-component-spacing\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s a clear understanding that we need to do better,\u201d he shares.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe as a government have taken proactive measures to deal with issues around EDI through our programming.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bains highlighted the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ic.gc.ca\/eic\/site\/107.nsf\/eng\/home\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Women Entrepreneurship Strategy<\/a> and the <a href=\"https:\/\/pm.gc.ca\/en\/news\/news-releases\/2020\/09\/09\/prime-minister-announces-support-black-entrepreneurs-and-business\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Black Entrepreneurship Program<\/a> as examples of steps the government has taken to address opportunity gaps, but says more work needs to be done. It\u2019s important for the private sector to take a leadership role on this issue as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThere needs to be an understanding that EDI is not only the right thing to do, but it makes society better,\u201d says Bains. \u201cEDI gives better outcomes, drives innovation, productivity and better returns.\u201d Expanding on that point, he says this work shouldn\u2019t be simply transactional, but actively working towards making EDI a part of the overall culture in Canada.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As extensions of the broader community, Bains says that universities have a critical role to play in support EDI initiatives. He commended Carleton for the ongoing work on this front, including our <a href=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/sip\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Strategic Integrated Plan<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/edi-plan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Equity Diversity and Inclusion Action Plan.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full wp-image-70317\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/minister-bains-1200w-1.jpg\" alt=\"Minister Navdeep Bains\" class=\"wp-image-70317\" srcset=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-1.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-1-400x225.jpg 400w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-1-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-1-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-1-700x394.jpg 700w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-1-200x113.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Minister Navdeep Bains<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cEDI should not be something that we think about after the fact, but it should be a part of our DNA and how we interact with one another,\u201d says Bains.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"not-prose cu-quote cu-component-spacing\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cI&#8217;m excited about the roles that universities can play, and particularly Carleton, to really highlight the importance of EDI.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Charles and Bains discussed how Carleton can get involved and expand on the government\u2019s emphasis and directions around EDI when it comes to educational design and research funding. They also spoke about the importance of collecting disaggregated data to measure the effectiveness of measures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bains acknowledged that there is a lack of diversity in the research community and shared that the federal government has taken steps to address that issues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s about building momentum,\u201d says Bains. \u201cIf you want good outcomes for businesses, you need to promote EDI. The same applies to research and thought leadership.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"680\" src=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/minister-bains-1200w-3.jpg\" alt=\"Minister Navdeep Bains speaks during the conversation with Assistant Vice-President and University Advisor Michael Charles\" class=\"wp-image-70322\" srcset=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-3.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-3-400x227.jpg 400w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-3-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-3-768x435.jpg 768w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-3-700x397.jpg 700w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/minister-bains-1200w-3-200x113.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bains says that it\u2019s important that the federal government shows leadership on this issue. Canada\u2019s new anti-racism strategy seeks to empower communities and institutions to take meaningful action by giving them the tools needed, spreading awareness and increasing education.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s about changing attitudes and making sure that we have an impact on people\u2019s behaviour,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Despite the work that lies ahead, Bains remains optimistic about the opportunity to create change in Canada and encouraged young people to remain hopeful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cMy message to young people is that you&#8217;re not the only one,\u201d says Bains.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"not-prose cu-quote cu-component-spacing\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cPeople have always gone through struggle, but you are in a unique position to have impact and we&#8217;re here to support you.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Carleton\u2019s Second Annual Inclusion Week is running from Oct. 19- Oct. 23. Visit <a href=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/equity\/events\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the website<\/a> for a full list of scheduled events.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"In conversation with the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry (Full Interview)\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/pjH3RyNK5Dg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8212;<br>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/our-stories\/\">More Stories<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To kick off Carleton University\u2019s Second Annual Inclusion Week, Michael Charles, Assistant Vice-President and University Advisor at Equity and Inclusive Communities spoke with Navdeep Bains, Canada\u2019s Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry. 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