{"id":85143,"date":"2022-12-09T10:49:28","date_gmt":"2022-12-09T15:49:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/?post_type=cu_story&#038;p=85143"},"modified":"2025-10-17T17:04:51","modified_gmt":"2025-10-17T21:04:51","slug":"grad-google-climate-renewable-energy","status":"publish","type":"cu_story","link":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/story\/grad-google-climate-renewable-energy\/","title":{"rendered":"Rethinking Renewable Energy: Carleton Grad at Google Eyes a Disruptive Climate Change Solution"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<section class=\"w-screen px-6 cu-section cu-section--white ml-offset-center md:px-8 lg:px-14\">\n    <div class=\"space-y-6 cu-max-w-child-max  md:space-y-10 cu-prose-first-last\">\n\n        \n                    \n                    \n            \n    <div class=\"cu-wideimage relative flex items-center justify-center mx-auto px-8 overflow-hidden md:px-16 rounded-xl not-prose  my-6 md:my-12 first:mt-0 bg-opacity-50 bg-cover bg-cu-black-50 pt-24 pb-32 md:pt-28 md:pb-44 lg:pt-36 lg:pb-60 xl:pt-48 xl:pb-72\" style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/google-hq-1200x900-1b.jpg); background-position: 50% 50%;\">\n\n                    <div class=\"absolute top-0 w-full h-screen\" style=\"background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.600);\"><\/div>\n        \n        <div class=\"relative z-[2] max-w-4xl w-full flex flex-col items-center gap-2 cu-wideimage-image cu-zero-first-last\">\n            <header class=\"mx-auto mb-6 text-center text-white cu-pageheader cu-component-updated cu-pageheader--center md:mb-12\">\n\n                                    <h1 class=\"cu-prose-first-last font-semibold mb-2 text-3xl md:text-4xl lg:text-5xl lg:leading-[3.5rem] cu-pageheader--center text-center mx-auto after:left-px\">\n                        Rethinking Renewable Energy: Carleton Grad at Google Eyes a Disruptive Climate Change Solution\n                    <\/h1>\n                \n                            <\/header>\n        <\/div>\n\n                    <svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"absolute bottom-0 w-full z-[1]\" fill=\"none\" viewbox=\"0 0 1280 312\">\n                <path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M26.412 315.608c-.602-.268-6.655-2.412-13.524-4.769a1943.84 1943.84 0 0 1-14.682-5.144l-2.276-.858v-5.358c0-4.876.086-5.358.773-5.09 1.674.643 21.38 5.84 34.646 9.109 14.682 3.59 28.935 6.858 45.936 10.449l9.874 2.089H57.322c-16.4 0-30.31-.16-30.91-.428ZM460.019 315.233c42.974-10.074 75.602-19.88 132.443-39.867 76.16-26.791 152.063-57.709 222.385-90.663 16.7-7.823 21.336-10.074 44.262-21.273 85.004-41.688 134.719-64.193 195.291-88.413 66.55-26.577 145.2-53.584 194.27-66.765C1258.5 5.626 1281.34 0 1282.24 0c.17 0 .34 27.596.34 61.3v61.299l-2.23.375c-84.7 13.718-165.93 35.955-310.736 84.931-46.494 15.753-65.427 22.076-96.166 32.15-9.102 3-24.814 8.198-34.989 11.574-107.543 35.954-153.008 50.422-196.626 62.639l-6.74 1.876-89.126-.054c-78.135-.054-88.782-.161-85.948-.857ZM729.628 312.875c33.229-10.985 69.248-23.523 127.506-44.207 118.705-42.223 164.596-57.709 217.446-73.302 2.62-.75 8.29-2.465 12.67-3.751 56.19-16.772 126.94-33.597 184.17-43.671 5.07-.91 9.66-1.768 10.22-1.875l.94-.161v170.236l-281.28-.054H719.968l9.66-3.215ZM246.864 313.411c-65.041-2.251-143.047-12.11-208.432-26.256-18.375-3.965-41.73-9.538-42.202-10.074-.171-.214-.257-21.38-.214-47.046l.129-46.618 6.654 3.697c57.313 32.043 118.491 56.531 197.699 79.143 40.313 11.521 83.459 18.058 138.669 21.059 15.584.857 65.685.857 81.14 0 33.744-1.876 61.306-4.93 88.396-9.806 6.396-1.126 11.634-1.983 11.722-1.929.255.375-20.48 7.769-30.999 11.038-28.592 8.948-59.288 15.646-91.873 20.147-26.36 3.59-50.015 5.627-78.35 6.698-15.584.59-55.209.59-72.339-.053Z\"><\/path>\n                <path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M-3.066 295.067 32.06 304.1v9.033H-3.066v-18.066Z\"><\/path>\n            <\/svg>\n            <\/div>\n\n    \n\n    <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n<p>Climate change isn&#8217;t just any challenge \u2014 it&#8217;s the biggest challenge of our time. The future of civilization hinges on our ability to scale up renewable energy while reducing greenhouse gas emissions, rather than adding to them.&nbsp;Yet to date, despite advances in renewables, we have missed every major global emissions reduction target.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright size-full wp-image-85147\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"225\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/ross-koningstein-225x225-1.jpg\" alt=\"A middle-aged man with glasses and a blue buttoned up shirt smiles for the camera\" class=\"wp-image-85147\" srcset=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/ross-koningstein-225x225-1.jpg 225w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/ross-koningstein-225x225-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/ross-koningstein-225x225-1-200x200.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ross Koningstein<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Emissions are projected to go up, but to address climate change, we need to pull down carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere and oceans,&#8221; says <a href=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/cu75\/profile\/ross-koningstein\/\">Ross Koningstein<\/a>, director emeritus of engineering at Google and a Carleton University <a href=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/engineering-design\/future-students\/undergraduate-programs\/\">Bachelor of Engineering<\/a> alumnus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has set aspirational goals, but there is a gap in the graph \u2014 which should be outlined with a red marker \u2014 between rising emissions and the desired net negatives. That&#8217;s where we have a major problem, and no economically rational number of solar panels and wind turbines will fix it.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Koningstein, who graduated from Carleton in 1984 and went on to earn his PhD in aerospace engineering from Stanford, joined Google in 2000 and has been with the company ever since. From 2008 to 2011, he was a senior staff engineer on a Google R&amp;D project called Renewable Energy Cheaper Than Coal (RE&lt;C), which aimed to bring down the cost of solar, wind and geothermal power.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But when it became clear that the price of photovoltaic panels wasn&#8217;t going to drop enough to make even improved solar technologies sufficient, Koningstein was one of several engineers who recommended ending RE&lt;C. He helped the team share its technical learnings, but the project also offered a deeper lesson.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full wp-image-85156\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"680\" src=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/photovoltaics-module-solar-panels-1200x680-1.jpg\" alt=\"Several rows of Photovoltaics module solar panels on a grass field\" class=\"wp-image-85156\" srcset=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/photovoltaics-module-solar-panels-1200x680-1.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/photovoltaics-module-solar-panels-1200x680-1-400x227.jpg 400w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/photovoltaics-module-solar-panels-1200x680-1-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/photovoltaics-module-solar-panels-1200x680-1-768x435.jpg 768w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/photovoltaics-module-solar-panels-1200x680-1-700x397.jpg 700w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/photovoltaics-module-solar-panels-1200x680-1-200x113.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Photovoltaics module solar panels (Airubon\/iStock)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;If you tell engineers how to solve a problem, you won&#8217;t get an ideal solution,&#8221; says Koningstein. &#8220;Google spent over $10 million on this. We built stuff, we funded academic research, we wrote a bunch of technical papers. My vice-president asked, \u2018What did we really learn? Tell me something provocative.&#8217; That became the article &#8216;<a href=\"https:\/\/spectrum.ieee.org\/what-it-would-really-take-to-reverse-climate-change\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">What Would it Really Take to Reverse Climate Change<\/a>.&#8217; When it was published, there was some controversy because it deviated from the mantra that deploying solar and wind will save us. But the key points, as reflected in IPCC revisions over the years, are playing out.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"not-prose cu-quote cu-component-spacing\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;When you understand the scale of this problem \u2014 terawatts of energy and thousands of billions of tons of carbon dioxide \u2014 then the analysis is straightforward: the world needs a low-carbon energy source that delivers rain or shine and can grow exponentially while removing a large legacy of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere,&#8221; he continues.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s why we need to go far beyond renewables, because our ability to conquer climate change on the renewables-only path is just not there. The root of all energy, whether it is sunshine, water or geothermal, is nuclear, either from fusion in the stars or the decay or fission of heavy elements left over from supernovae. If we want to develop breakthrough energy for the future, then some flavour of nuclear energy is the place to look.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignfull wp-image-85149 size-full w-screen ml-offset-center cu-max-w-child-max px-4 md:px-6 lg:px-12\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"680\" src=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-energy-1200x680-1.jpg\" alt=\"A design concept of a nuclear reaction\" class=\"wp-image-85149\" srcset=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-energy-1200x680-1.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-energy-1200x680-1-400x227.jpg 400w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-energy-1200x680-1-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-energy-1200x680-1-768x435.jpg 768w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-energy-1200x680-1-700x397.jpg 700w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-energy-1200x680-1-200x113.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n<h2 id=\"the-disruptive-potential-of-nuclear-power\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Disruptive Potential of Nuclear Power<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>This challenge reminds Koningstein of an exponential growth problem he&#8217;d faced earlier in his career. In Google&#8217;s early days, growth costs were on a path to far outpace revenue growth.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"not-prose cu-quote cu-component-spacing\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;The company had this problem \u2014 Google search was growing exponentially, and with it the costs of hosting the service and hiring engineers,&#8221; he explains.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>&#8220;We had three lines of business. One was custom online search, such as university portals, but that didn&#8217;t make much money. One was enterprise search, with custom computers housed inside corporations, which did make some money but had a slow sales cycle and couldn&#8217;t grow quickly. And there were online ads, which could potentially grow with Google&#8217;s search, because companies were starting to see the benefits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;A simple back-of-the-envelope calculation was all that was needed to see that to grow exponentially, ads were the only choice. But the founders didn&#8217;t like ads for a number of good reasons. So, this gave us a high bar: Google&#8217;s new ad system had to be disruptively better in quality for them to be happy with it.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It was. Ad revenue quickly became Google&#8217;s largest source of revenue. In 2002, the company brought in less than $500 million from advertising. By 2021, total ad revenue had grown exponentially to more than $209 billion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Koningstein sees similar potential in nuclear energy. To achieve an exponential reduction in emissions, he envisions a three-pronged path.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"not-prose cu-quote cu-component-spacing\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;There need to be improvements to existing technologies, commercialization of new ones and entirely new discoveries,&#8221; he says.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>It is unlikely that hundreds more old-technology nuclear fission reactors will be built, but this widely used technology was developed in the 1960s and 1970s. We could benefit from novel technologies and processes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full wp-image-85164\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"680\" src=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/enriched-uranium-1200x680-1.jpg\" alt=\"A hand in a yellow protective glove holds a yellow and black-looking rock\" class=\"wp-image-85164\" srcset=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/enriched-uranium-1200x680-1.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/enriched-uranium-1200x680-1-400x227.jpg 400w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/enriched-uranium-1200x680-1-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/enriched-uranium-1200x680-1-768x435.jpg 768w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/enriched-uranium-1200x680-1-700x397.jpg 700w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/enriched-uranium-1200x680-1-200x113.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A highly enriched uranium billet (RHJ\/iStock)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>However, weapons considerations limit uranium fission scalability. Enriched uranium can be used in bombs, so only a limited number of countries are able to obtain the fuel. But alternate fuels or nuclear fusion could change the game.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I think we&#8217;ll see the first demonstrations within a decade, but it typically takes 30 to 50 years for energy innovations to go from the lab to commercial power systems,&#8221; says Koningstein.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"not-prose cu-quote cu-component-spacing\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;So even if it works, fusion won&#8217;t be on the grid immediately.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>The biggest question mark is what we don&#8217;t even know yet. There could be novel ways to generate nuclear energy that we simply haven&#8217;t figured out \u2014 technologies that could enable portable, compact power systems for transportation, for example.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Anyone who has predicted that we won&#8217;t make more scientific discoveries has been proven wrong again and again,&#8221; says Koningstein, &#8220;and that makes me an optimist.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignfull wp-image-85150 size-full w-screen ml-offset-center cu-max-w-child-max px-4 md:px-6 lg:px-12\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"680\" src=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-power-plant-1200x680-1.jpg\" alt=\"Nuclear power plant\" class=\"wp-image-85150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-power-plant-1200x680-1.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-power-plant-1200x680-1-400x227.jpg 400w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-power-plant-1200x680-1-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-power-plant-1200x680-1-768x435.jpg 768w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-power-plant-1200x680-1-700x397.jpg 700w, https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/nuclear-power-plant-1200x680-1-200x113.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n<p>&#8212;<br>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/our-stories\/\">More Stories<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Climate change isn&#8217;t just any challenge \u2014 it&#8217;s the biggest challenge of our time. 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