{"id":95177,"date":"2025-03-04T09:19:05","date_gmt":"2025-03-04T14:19:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\/?post_type=cu_story&#038;p=95177"},"modified":"2025-08-19T09:36:59","modified_gmt":"2025-08-19T13:36:59","slug":"rebellion-against-moralizing","status":"publish","type":"cu_story","link":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/story\/rebellion-against-moralizing\/","title":{"rendered":"How Rebellion Against Moralizing Has Become a Surprising Rallying Point for the Political Right"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<section class=\"w-screen px-6 cu-section cu-section--white ml-offset-center md:px-8 lg:px-14\">\n    <div class=\"space-y-6 cu-max-w-child-max  md:space-y-10 cu-prose-first-last\">\n\n        \n                    \n                    \n            \n    <div class=\"cu-wideimage relative flex items-center justify-center mx-auto px-8 overflow-hidden md:px-16 rounded-xl not-prose  my-6 md:my-12 first:mt-0 bg-opacity-50 bg-cover bg-cu-black-50 pt-24 pb-32 md:pt-28 md:pb-44 lg:pt-36 lg:pb-60 xl:pt-48 xl:pb-72\" style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/162\/istock-white-house-1200x900-1.jpg); background-position: 50% 50%;\">\n\n                    <div class=\"absolute top-0 w-full h-screen\" style=\"background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.600);\"><\/div>\n        \n        <div class=\"relative z-[2] max-w-4xl w-full flex flex-col items-center gap-2 cu-wideimage-image cu-zero-first-last\">\n            <header class=\"mx-auto mb-6 text-center text-white cu-pageheader cu-component-updated cu-pageheader--center md:mb-12\">\n\n                                    <h1 class=\"cu-prose-first-last font-semibold mb-2 text-3xl md:text-4xl lg:text-5xl lg:leading-[3.5rem] cu-pageheader--center text-center mx-auto after:left-px\">\n                        How Rebellion Against Moralizing Has Become a Surprising Rallying Point for the Political Right\n                    <\/h1>\n                \n                            <\/header>\n        <\/div>\n\n                    <svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"absolute bottom-0 w-full z-[1]\" fill=\"none\" viewbox=\"0 0 1280 312\">\n                <path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M26.412 315.608c-.602-.268-6.655-2.412-13.524-4.769a1943.84 1943.84 0 0 1-14.682-5.144l-2.276-.858v-5.358c0-4.876.086-5.358.773-5.09 1.674.643 21.38 5.84 34.646 9.109 14.682 3.59 28.935 6.858 45.936 10.449l9.874 2.089H57.322c-16.4 0-30.31-.16-30.91-.428ZM460.019 315.233c42.974-10.074 75.602-19.88 132.443-39.867 76.16-26.791 152.063-57.709 222.385-90.663 16.7-7.823 21.336-10.074 44.262-21.273 85.004-41.688 134.719-64.193 195.291-88.413 66.55-26.577 145.2-53.584 194.27-66.765C1258.5 5.626 1281.34 0 1282.24 0c.17 0 .34 27.596.34 61.3v61.299l-2.23.375c-84.7 13.718-165.93 35.955-310.736 84.931-46.494 15.753-65.427 22.076-96.166 32.15-9.102 3-24.814 8.198-34.989 11.574-107.543 35.954-153.008 50.422-196.626 62.639l-6.74 1.876-89.126-.054c-78.135-.054-88.782-.161-85.948-.857ZM729.628 312.875c33.229-10.985 69.248-23.523 127.506-44.207 118.705-42.223 164.596-57.709 217.446-73.302 2.62-.75 8.29-2.465 12.67-3.751 56.19-16.772 126.94-33.597 184.17-43.671 5.07-.91 9.66-1.768 10.22-1.875l.94-.161v170.236l-281.28-.054H719.968l9.66-3.215ZM246.864 313.411c-65.041-2.251-143.047-12.11-208.432-26.256-18.375-3.965-41.73-9.538-42.202-10.074-.171-.214-.257-21.38-.214-47.046l.129-46.618 6.654 3.697c57.313 32.043 118.491 56.531 197.699 79.143 40.313 11.521 83.459 18.058 138.669 21.059 15.584.857 65.685.857 81.14 0 33.744-1.876 61.306-4.93 88.396-9.806 6.396-1.126 11.634-1.983 11.722-1.929.255.375-20.48 7.769-30.999 11.038-28.592 8.948-59.288 15.646-91.873 20.147-26.36 3.59-50.015 5.627-78.35 6.698-15.584.59-55.209.59-72.339-.053Z\"><\/path>\n                <path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M-3.066 295.067 32.06 304.1v9.033H-3.066v-18.066Z\"><\/path>\n            <\/svg>\n            <\/div>\n\n    \n\n    <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n<p>This article is <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/how-rebellion-against-moralizing-has-become-a-surprising-rallying-point-for-the-political-right-250549\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">republished<\/a> from The Conversation under a Creative Commons licence. All photos provided by <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Conversation<\/a> from various sources.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/socanth\/profile\/alexis-shotwell\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Alexis Shotwell<\/a> is a professor of sociology and anthropology at Carleton University.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A couple of weeks before the astonishing Feb. 28 White House Oval Office meeting that saw <a href=\"https:\/\/www.telegraphherald.com\/news\/national_world\/article_20c750d8-f620-11ef-80b9-ffa330a74e51.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">United States President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance scold Ukraine&#8217;s leader<\/a>, Vance told European leaders at the Munich Security Conference: &#8220;If American democracy can survive 10 years of Greta Thunberg&#8217;s scolding, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msn.com\/en-us\/politics\/international-relations\/vance-if-us-survived-greta-thunberg-europe-can-survive-a-few-months-of-elon-musk\/ar-AA1z4bv1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">you guys can survive a few months of Elon Musk<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vance was responding \u2014 with humour, he said \u2014 to pushback over Elon Musk&#8217;s vocal support for Germany&#8217;s far-right parties, expressed on X <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/elon-musk-investigated-europe-election-interference-germany-2013070\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">in a livestream event<\/a> and in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2024\/dec\/28\/elon-musk-germany-afd-party\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">December 2024 German newspaper op-ed<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Newsweek<\/em> reported that the administration of Germany&#8217;s lower house of parliament &#8220;is investigating whether <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/elon-musk-far-right-germany-england-europe-2008828\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Musk&#8217;s support for the AfD on the platform where he has 210 million followers could constitute an illegal party donation<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Are Musk&#8217;s actions, which some allege <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.eu\/article\/elon-musk-will-face-consequences-interfering-german-election-front-runner-friedrich-merz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">are interference<\/a>, comparable to a young woman&#8217;s moralizing?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It might seem odd to equate the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2024\/12\/11\/business\/elon-musk-400-billion-net-worth\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">richest person in the world<\/a> supporting far-right political parties <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/world\/nyc-un-climate-summit-1.5293734\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">with an eco-activist saying<\/a> politicians should address climate change. However, there is a long history of people seeing scolding as one of the worst things we can do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our research has been concerned with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.upress.umn.edu\/9780816698646\/against-purity\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">how &#8220;purity politics&#8221;<\/a> shape people&#8217;s attempts to live ethical lives, and what it means to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomsbury.com\/us\/ecological-reasonings-9781350372115\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">reason about ecological catastrophe<\/a>. We are writing a book about how rebellion against moralizing has become a surprising rallying point for the political right, and how to think about moralizing more broadly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"rage-against-moralizing\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Rage against moralizing<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Whereas conservatives used to be defenders of morals, they now rage against moralizing, seeing &#8220;wokism&#8221; as a threat to freedom. Religious conservatives used to <a href=\"https:\/\/press.princeton.edu\/books\/paperback\/9780691089584\/the-book-of-jerry-falwell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">position themselves<\/a> as bastions of morality. But <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/4195053\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">research shows<\/a> secular societies do not behave less morally as a whole than religious ones.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Philosopher Judith Butler argues that while Trump displays a &#8220;shameless sadism&#8221;<br>\nwe are seeing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/commentisfree\/2025\/feb\/06\/trump-sadism-judith-butler\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">his supporters revel in his rejection of moral repression<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The rejection of moralizing seems to be creating a terrain in which many on the right <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/cf876b19-8c69-498b-95f5-d018618d99ec\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">feel liberated<\/a> by the current turn against &#8220;wokism.&#8221; But even on the left, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.akpress.org\/we-will-not-cancel-us.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">some now worry about too much moralism in what is called &#8220;cancel culture<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How did moralizing come to this? Could understanding this help us navigate political deadlocks? The history of philosophy has some surprising suggestions here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"traditionalism-scolding\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Traditionalism, scolding<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>First: there are some dangers in moralizing. One is a kind of traditionalism, which shows up in the creation of <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/a-trans-review-of-2017-the-year-of-transgender-moral-panic-89272\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">moral panics<\/a> about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scientificamerican.com\/article\/anti-trans-moral-panics-endanger-all-young-people\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">transgender people<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/fernwoodpublishing.ca\/book\/out-to-defend-ourselves\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">street gangs<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/j.bpobgyn.2019.07.006\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">abortion<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1080\/1369118X.2017.1388428\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">immigrants<\/a> and so on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another is if someone scolds: &#8220;you should take the bus rather than driving&#8221; \u2014 but the bus doesn&#8217;t run to your neighbourhood. Moralizing like this is just posturing. Maybe it makes the driver feel bad, but it doesn&#8217;t create more public transit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Still, many of us have strong ethical convictions, and we try to live according to what we believe is right or wrong. Even if we judge someone else for the way they are living or behaving, we might hesitate to say something directly. Having personal ethics is socially acceptable; telling others what to do turns us into a scold. Why?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"our-stance\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Our stance<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The word &#8220;ethos&#8221; in ancient Greek means something like &#8220;posture&#8221; or &#8220;standing.&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/iep.utm.edu\/aristotle-ethics\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Aristotle saw ethos<\/a> as marking our credibility, our character; we enact our ethics only in a shared world. Contemporary ethical approaches often focus on the personal side of this, setting an example without pushing values on others.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter align-center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/651892\/original\/file-20250226-32-st464j.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" alt=\"\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><span class=\"caption\">Aristotle saw \u2018ethos&#8217; as marking our character.<\/span><br>\n<span class=\"attribution\"><span class=\"source\">(Shutterstock)<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The related word &#8220;moral&#8221; comes from the Latin <em>mores<\/em>, usually understood as naming shared customs. Ancient Roman philosopher Cicero used the term <em>moralis<\/em> to translate <em>ethos<\/em>, (\u1f20\u03b8\u03b9\u03ba\u03ae) from Greek. &#8220;Morals&#8221; were regarded as &#8220;the common consent of all living together, constituted from shared traditions,&#8221; to quote the influential definition of Roman scholar <a href=\"http:\/\/doi.org\/10.1093\/obo\/9780195389661-0161\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Marcus Terentius Varro<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This &#8220;common consent&#8221; did not claim to apply to everyone. As late as the 16th century, philosophers such <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/montaigne\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">as Michel de Montaigne<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/cardano\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cardano<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/agrippa-nettesheim\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Agrippa of Nettesheim<\/a> developed a comparative study of various customs and value systems known as &#8220;scienta moralis.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Moral philosophers discussed different inclinations and life-ways of people without postulating one superior norm that would govern everyone. There was a Christian strand of moral theology that saw <a href=\"https:\/\/adfontesjournal.com\/web-exclusives\/the-roots-of-reformed-moral-theology\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">morality as a universal principle<\/a>, but even after the era of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.britannica.com\/event\/Reformation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">16th-century Reformation in the western church<\/a>, it was not primarily about condemnation and judgement. Rather, this branch <a href=\"https:\/\/press.uchicago.edu\/ucp\/books\/book\/chicago\/I\/bo246135916.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">of &#8220;humanist&#8221; moral inquiry<\/a> examined how people create and maintain shared norms in a pluralistic society.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This changed with ideas that we could have a universally applicable moral science, governed by reason. Philosophers like <a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/kant\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Immanuel Kant<\/a> helped formulate this idea. If we think of morality as a law everyone can be subjected to, it makes sense that people rebel against it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"channeling-opponents-of-moralizing\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Channeling opponents of moralizing<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>When Vance characterised Thunberg as &#8220;scolding,&#8221; he unwittingly channelled opponents of moralizing, such as philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nietzsche <a href=\"https:\/\/openlibrary.org\/books\/OL19449738M\/Nachgelassene_fragmente\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">once defined<\/a> his philosophical project as a &#8220;declaration of war against morals and moralists.&#8221; For him and the thinkers he inspired, <a href=\"https:\/\/iep.utm.edu\/nietzsches-ethics\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">moralizing<\/a> is conceived as a negative emotion motivated by resentment and envy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nietzsche&#8217;s almost total rejection of morals can be understood as one of the many roots of the contemporary hesitation (though this idea <a href=\"https:\/\/jacobin.com\/2019\/01\/neitzsche-heidegger-ronald-beiner-far-right\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">is debated<\/a>). No one wants to be denigrated by being seen as one of the sheep who unquestioningly embraces a herd mentality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this context, paradoxically, moralizing \u2014 scolding \u2014 has come to mean that anyone who says they think something is bad, or should be otherwise, is oppressing the people they criticize.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 id=\"scolding-people-in-power\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">\u2018Scolding&#8217; people in power<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>When we look at the extraordinary difference in power between Musk and Thunberg, this definition of moralizing begins to seem a little weird. Is scolding so dangerous to people in power?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For people interested in pushing back against authoritarianism, maybe we should hope that it is. We can look to the earlier ideal of morality as forging &#8220;common consent&#8221; for direction here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the philosophical sense, addressing our &#8220;mores&#8221; suggests moving towards a collective re-evaluation of how people want to live. Saying &#8220;no, I do not agree with this&#8221; can perhaps express our character in a way that shapes our shared world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Moralizing could then be the process of building new customs. It would be about <a href=\"https:\/\/press.uchicago.edu\/ucp\/books\/book\/chicago\/M\/bo6943529.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">building morale<\/a> and seeing hope and agency in these admittedly dire times. Moralizing <em>with<\/em> others, rather than <em>at<\/em> them, could help people move beyond feeling <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ucpress.edu\/books\/a-field-guide-to-climate-anxiety\/paper\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">immobilized<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1111\/hypa.12452\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cynical<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Studies about &#8220;bystander <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1037\/h0026570\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">intervention<\/a>&#8221; usually focus on the ways that people go along with things they think are wrong. Research does suggest our moral actions are shaped by the people around us, but this also means <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1007\/s12115-018-0231-4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">moral courage<\/a> is contagious.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Standing up for something allows other people to also <a href=\"https:\/\/thisisanuprising.org\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">express their moral convictions<\/a>. It can be a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.penguinrandomhouse.com\/books\/206173\/freedom-dreams-by-robin-dg-kelley\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">testament about hope or agency<\/a> and could be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.penguinrandomhouse.com\/books\/131609\/poor-peoples-movements-by-frances-fox-piven-and-richard-cloward\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">more powerful<\/a> than we think.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It is perhaps the fear of this powerful potential that is the core of truth in Vance&#8217;s otherwise absurd equation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Perhaps this signals the true threat moralizing poses to the status quo \u2014 the possibility that there is a better way to live together in a shared world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>_<br>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.carleton.ca\">Carleton Newsroom<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/counter.theconversation.com\/content\/250549\/count.gif?distributor=republish-lightbox-basic\" alt=\"The Conversation\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of weeks before the astonishing Feb. 28 White House Oval Office meeting that saw United States President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance scold Ukraine\u2019s leader, Vance told European leaders at the Munich Security Conference: &#8220;If American democracy can survive 10 years of Greta Thunberg\u2019s scolding, you guys can survive a few months of Elon Musk.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":410,"featured_media":95178,"template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"cu_story_type":[1623],"cu_story_tag":[],"class_list":["post-95177","cu_story","type-cu_story","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","cu_story_type-expert-perspectives"],"acf":{"cu_post_thumbnail":false},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cu_story\/95177","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cu_story"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/cu_story"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/410"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cu_story\/95177\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":95185,"href":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cu_story\/95177\/revisions\/95185"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/95178"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=95177"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"cu_story_type","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cu_story_type?post=95177"},{"taxonomy":"cu_story_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/carleton.ca\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cu_story_tag?post=95177"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}